Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-15 19:40:53
Rough day. I am going to tell myself this fire was the accidental outcome of someone's trying to bring back Cerrunos to the docklands or achieve alchemical gold.
Roger Giner-Sorolla @ 2019-04-15 20:33:12
AND Gene Wolfe? fuuuck
Richard G @ 2019-04-15 20:34:19
yup. Everyone else now feels like I did after the Cutty Sark burned. I get to feel it twice. Take that!
Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-15 20:34:44
Yeah. Hell of a day all around. At least my two-day hangover is starting to fade.
Adam Thornton @ 2019-04-15 21:24:46
@Handy Haversack that probably just means you're dying.
Scott Martin @ 2019-04-15 21:25:28
Fulcanelli conceded that the thing was never the same after the mid-1750s but at least they scanned the hell out of it a few years ago.
Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-15 22:34:02
I suppose that there's a case to be made that church things *should* fall to ruin -- but I'd feel better about it if I didn't expect luxury condos to open at the Oligarch Arms in Ile de la Cite (no kybd. shortcuts for accents on the laptop -- you know what I mean). Lotta human magic in that bldg. though. I wonder the new Archeological Crypt survived. It was pretty cool.
Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-15 23:03:51
Some good thoughts here: https://twitter.com/CZEdwards/status/1117850427846844416
Mamading Ceesay @ 2019-04-16 10:06:45
It was a terrible day.
Paolo Greco @ 2019-04-17 06:12:21
I have a few thoughts about this: 0: from a conservation PoV it's a disaster, but possibly one that is fixable. The School of Art here caught fire twice and now has to be demolished but it will be rebuilt to be the same. 1: when civic buildings get destroyed, it's always bad, because the polity gets hurt. The emotional rollercoaster for the GSoA was... something. 2: as the polity behind this church is massive, pretty much everyone is upset. 3: Our Lady in Paris was the most underwhelming cathedral I've seen in France. Reims's is much better. This is irrelevant, because of the above point. It could have been a carbuncle full of garbage: if it is important, people are right to be upset. 4: the callouts for comparisons with other civic buildings being destroyed not receiving the same loveletters is misunderstanding love for what buildings are to us. And possibly live at large. 5: if you did write a love letter to Our Lady yet not care if mosques or churches of a different ethnic group or religions get destroyed, please bring yourself out.
Richard G @ 2019-04-17 11:51:39
I’m just glad it wasn’t Sainte Chapelle, I don’t think they _could_ rebuild that.
Mamading Ceesay @ 2019-04-17 12:54:41
When I wrote "it was a terrible day", I was also thinking of Al-Aqsa.
Scott Martin @ 2019-04-17 14:09:10
@paolo I heard the weeping over that school fire from here. One thing that's heartening is that these are turning out to be tough old birds. Going to take out more than a little blaze to take any of them before their time. It would be nice to scan more of them though so anyone with the right glasses can "own" them.
Paolo Greco @ 2019-04-17 14:31:45
@scott it's one of those things I prefer not to think about. Fortunately I managed to visit the Rare Book Library with original woodwork by Macintosh. It was extraordinary. Also, after the first fire they religiously 3d scanned the whole building, so they have good records of the whole thing. It is not salvageable because the sandstone certified, but it will be rebuilt in due time. In the meantime, the campus is scattered throughout the whole city.
Richard G @ 2019-04-17 18:16:54
Oh shit I didn't even hear about the al-Aqsa mosque fire. Looks like nobody was hurt and it was put out quickly!
Richard G @ 2019-04-17 18:18:34
....it's actually kind of miraculous nobody was killed at Notre Dame, either.
Richard G @ 2019-04-17 18:19:11
not _actually_ miraculous. But still, very good news.
Scott Martin @ 2019-04-17 18:37:55
"The actually miraculous." Weird rumors and rumors of rumors on back channels, sort of angels of mons activity happening. The art was rescued. The art was out for restoration anyway. The windows blew out. The windows are there. Loving all scans!
Paolo Greco @ 2019-04-18 06:31:56
The sandstone vetrified, not certified. Stupid autocorrect. Vetrified stone is why lighting a fire next to castle walls is a totally legit way of starting a breach.
Mamading Ceesay @ 2019-04-18 12:21:42
Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-18 14:01:53
Must be "vitrified," but I had to retype the word three times, so maybe something wants us to lay off! We saw the vitrified fort of Scaith, who may or may not have been the war queen who taught the arts of war and love to Cuchulainn and thence Shane MacGowan. Ms. H has a song about it. Filming of the video starts soonest. Announcements will be made! Just saying -- we never know the consequences. For instance, I may or may not have lit a Dunkirk church on fire in order to steal ships from the harbor and stick one to the Antichrist, right, Richard? Just catching up today after a busy one. Glad to see you all!
Richard G @ 2019-04-18 17:31:13
“may or may not” it wastotally that zealot guy who looked like Terry Gilliam! No question!
Handy Haversack @ 2019-04-18 17:33:03
I am assuming you mean my second "may or may not"! Unless . . .
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